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Hearing of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Representatives with the testimony of Secretary of State Anthony Blinken - Iran

Will you commit that Russia and will have no part and you will not lift any sanctions against Iran or Russia until the Ukrainian conflict has been satisfactorily resolved? ... 

01:32:09:6 - 01:32:29:2

01:31:38:0 - 01:32:08:8

Unknown

Unknown

Any actions that Russia would be called upon to take pursuant to the agreement would not be in contravention of the sanctions that are being imposed on Russia. ...

01:32:30:5 - 01:32:51:8

Unknown

And we, of course, will make sure that lawyers look at everything, but the actions that Russia would take pursuant to the agreement, if there's a return to the agreement, would not be in contravention of the sanctions imposed on Russia for its actions. In Ukraine. ...

01:35:02:8 - 01:35:26:8

Unknown

Now, I don't normally agree with my good friend, Mr. Isom, but I do agree with him on this JCP. We have great concerns and one of the things that you just said concerns me significantly, and that is that Iran is now galloping towards a nuclear bomb or nuclear program.

01:35:44:2 - 01:36:13:0

Unknown

Now, the JCPOA was very concerning to me, and I did not support it because of the timelines They weren't permanent restrictions. Things rolled off. Now that we're negotiating them again, you say that it's going to be stronger and better. Could you give us some information on where this is and what that means?

blinken

What we inherited was a failure, a failure to actually curb Iran's nuclear program, a failure to curb its malicious activities.

01:36:13:2 - 01:36:34:8

Unknown

Throughout the region. ... At the same time, despite the maximum pressure being exerted against Iran, which we were told would cause them to curb their malicious activities in the region, we've seen them accelerate.


01:36:35:5 - 01:36:58:6

Unknown

... The IRGC was designated as a foreign terrorist organization. Suleimani, for whom no one is shedding a tear, was killed.


01:36:58:9 - 01:37:27:1

Unknown

Those attacks have gone up 400% our ability to, under the previous policy to deter Iran clearly was not succeeding. ...

  

01:37:27:6 - 01:37:44:5

Unknown

And I guess my concern is that we do have to refocus once again, because I remember what happened in North Korea when we said that, because of the deal that we had, they'd never have a nuclear weapon if we woke up one day and they had one.


01:37:44:9 - 01:38:05:6

Unknown

And so, again, my concern here is that that's going to happen in Iran. 

 So again, I thank you. And I hope we be remain vigilant. ... 

01:38:06:8 - 01:38:27:7

Representative Adam Kinzinger of Illinois

Just a quick thing on the JCPOA as it's been discussed. I think it is worth noting, there are provisions of the JCPOA that would be expiring now had we stayed in it. And I think it's important when we talk about the future in foreign policy time, like ten years actually is pretty quick. ...

01:50:19:2 - 01:50:38:6

Jeff zeldin

I'm asking why wouldn't a nuclear deal similar to the JCPOA, why would that not be a treaty?

blinken

Because in many instances, doing it in the way that we would do it gives us much greater flexibility to make sure that if, for example, there's a violation of the agreement by the Iranians, we can act quickly to deal with that....

01:51:01:8 - 01:51:33:1

Unknown

.... I share his concern Are you going to agree to a nuclear is it possible you would agree to a nuclear agreement that doesn't change the sunset provision dates Congressman, the situation that we inherited is such as that.

01:51:33:1 - 01:52:07:5

Unknown

... But but the question is, would you agree to a nuclear deal that does not change the sunset provision dates?

 We are looking at getting back into mutual compliance with the agreement. That includes the various provisions that were in the agreement from the start, including the sunsets, ...

01:52:07:8 - 01:52:29:3

Unknown

...

. I want to know if you would agree to a nuclear deal that does not change the sunset provision dates.

We without getting into the discussion,

 yes or no? Is is the answer yes. You are willing to enter into a nuclear agreement that does not change the sunset provision?

 

01:52:29:7 - 01:52:48:5

Unknown

The answer is quite simply that what we are seeking to do is to get back into mutual compliance with the agreement. ...

 

01:52:48:5 - 01:53:06:1

Unknown

And if you're not able to say yes or no to that? We're not going to assume that you're there fighting for a change to the sunset provisions because you're not even telling us that. Why would we expect that you're drawing a tougher stance on the Iranians than you're willing to say to Congress and to the to the American people?

01:53:07:2 - 01:53:28:3

Unknown

You said that you're going to follow a narrow. Does that mean that you would submit the entire agreement? The lawyers will we'll look at that, are looking at that. If they make a determination that under NRO, there are requirements that we have, of course we will follow those. ...

01:53:47:2 - 01:54:17:4

Unknown

...

the reports of added security for your predecessor and another issues. 

01:54:17:4 - 01:54:42:0

Unknown

We are very concerned about that, and especially with regards to negotiations with Iran and how that relates. Just just know that there is a massive concern with negotiating with Iran. While that may be ongoing, to the extent of a conversation that we can have here. ...

Appreciate that. I'm happy to follow up in a different setting with you.

01:54:44:4 - 01:55:14:4

Unknown

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02:04:53:4 - 02:05:21:4

Unknown

... I am concerned about this disastrous Iran nuclear deal also. Mr. Secretary, I think it is a deeply flawed agreement and and certainly a windfall for the world's top supporter of state sponsored terrorism.

02:05:21:4 - 02:05:49:2

Unknown

So I hope that I could submit some of these questions, especially vis-a-vis Iranian oil today and some of the sanctions that are not being enforced for. For the record, and see if I can get some response from you and your team. Grateful.

blinken

Certainly ...

02:06:52:7 - 02:07:20:7

Unknown

Unfortunately, Mr. Secretary, I feel that we're witnessing a similar pattern with Iran, and I want to explain. Iran is the largest state sponsor of terrorism, regularly calls for the destruction of Israel, launched attacks against U.S. military forces and U.S. partners in the region, from SAUDI Arabia to the UAE. It also takes Americans and other foreign nationals hostage like my constituent Bob Levinson, as well as Imad Charge in the masses and others.

02:07:21:1 - 02:07:50:6

Unknown

Iran and the IRGC support terror groups in SYRIA and Lebanon and Gaza and IRAQ and Yemen, just to name a few. The regime has made its intentions to destabilize the region and expand its empire clear since the Islamic revolution of 1979. Its nuclear program now enriches to 60%, which, as the IAEA director general has said, is done only by countries who are developing or intend to develop nuclear weapons.


02:07:51:6 - 02:08:35:9

Unknown

Now it sometimes seems that our policy towards Iran and we've seen this here in this committee even today that our policy towards Iran is entirely the JCPOA. The conversations we've had here have focused on the JCPOA and whether or not to reenter the nuclear deal. But that's not obviously a policy to address everything that Iran represents. And just as we have led our European allies in confronting Russia, we should lead our partners in the region, Israel, the Abraham Accords nations, our other partners in confronting Iran to address all of Iran's actions.


02:08:36:6 - 02:09:02:4

Unknown

... So let's start by asking if you could just define what our policy is with respect to Iran.

02:09:02:6 - 02:09:31:5

Unknown

The country whose mullahs have taken all of these actions consistently now for decades.

blinken

Yeah, you're exactly right. Whether or not there is a JCPOA all of the actions and activities that you've described will continue. Now, one fundamental question for us is an Iran with a nuclear weapon or the capacity to get one on short order is likely to act with even greater impunity in doing all of these things, which is one of the reasons we want to do everything we can to deny it the capability of weapon.


02:09:31:5 - 02:10:09:1

Unknown

But having said that, your point is a very important one, which is why, irrespective of an agreement or not, we are working with allies and partners, with our Arab partners, with Israel, and others to make sure that we are putting in place the means necessary to deal with all of these other challenges. Hardening Defenses, Long-Range Bomber, overflights, deepening cooperation to interdict, sanctioning relevant Iranian actors, boosting the capacity of our partners Again, all of these things to confront, contend with everything you've just described.

 

02:10:09:1 - 02:10:36:5

Unknown

... that JCPOA or no it is our policy that Iran will not acquire a nuclear weapon. 


That is correct. ...



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